"before all theese counceling , books ,and group therepy ,and now a university degree came to be , which was all of corse came from the knowledge of Pagans and Wiccans and stolen from us..Where ever there was a problam with in group this is where the elders got together and had a disscussion on best way to resolve things. One of the no, no's was going to a freinds place and get drunk which did not solve anything as wife not knowing where he or she now went,, is getting evan more worked up and another blow when he .she, returns which did not solve the problam but made it worse and now getting adictive. Neither did drugs solve the problam.The answerer was go for a 20 minute walk sit somewhere relax then walk 20 minutes back again , I can assure you by the time you walked back one has a diffrant view of the whole situation and now can be discussed in a cival manner.Pagans Wiccans were not only there for there belief but also councelors midwifes healers and much more . They used their common sence and the experiance gained through the years.But theese days it seams elders reach a certain age and forgotten, or if a younger person goes to them for advice they are trying to get into their pants instead, and of corse if in such a emotional disposition also gullible "